![]() Then when they get to work with systems that have gigabytes of RAM, terabytes of storage and gigahertz of speed, they'll know how to get amazing performance instead of dumping a load of crap onto it just because there's "so much" space and speed that "it really doesn't matter". Programmers ought to have to learn the basics on hardware with very limited storage and memory so they'll get the concept ingrained that to produce the best performance they should eliminate all unnecessary code and data. Now I routinely work with single document files that wouldn't fit on that hard drive. I installed DOS and all the software I had at the time - which filled up half of the drive. There was a 10 meg version of the drive that had four platters instead of the two in the 5 meg, but I didn't have that kind of $$$$. It was a massive (physically) full height 5.25" Tandon with a stepper motor actuated head. I like to keep it clean and tidy and using as little storage and RAM as possible - that goes back to the first hard drive I owned. I've NEVER had CCleaner cause any damage to Windows. For programs I want to remove but the author(s) failed to include a working uninstall, I can simply delete the files and folders then have CCleaner find all Registry data connected to those now missing files and folders and remove them. Other than the browser database compaction, everything CCleaner does can be done using Regedit and Explorer, but it will take you many hours and you have to know what to look for and how/where to find it. ![]() Removing orphan registry data left behind by 99.9% of all software when uninstalled - thanks to Microsoft failing for decades to have Windows rigidly enforce a proper garbage collection policy.Ĭompletely emptying Temp folders, same thing there, when Windows or a program crashes and leavse junk in a temp folder, it will usually get left there because the program or Windows has lost track of it. It does a better job at that than Microsoft's cleanup tool. Removing entries in Programs and Features to clean up after programs with nonexistent or badly done/broken uninstall. Things I find especially useful about CCleaner, which I began using back when it was still called Crap Cleaner.īrowser cache cleaning - because when something crashes a browser its own cache empty function often fails to delete everything (I'm looking at *you*, IE). using (say) Regseeker and manually reviewing it's output before applying changes/deleting registry keys is a suitable approach. Personally, being (unfortunately) a grown up kid and not (cannot say if unfortunately ) a software engineer, I find that going midway, i.e. NoelC's reported experience is the experience of a particularly knowledgeable software engineer using his computer on the workplace to do professionally whatever professional software engineers are supposed to do.Īnother user, let's say a kid, with no actual (yet) understanding of the OS, downloading and running (even only to briefly test them) a zillion programs, among which many "rogue" ones, any number of *ahem* diversely obtained and authenticated pieces of software, navigating 2/3 to 4/5 of the Internet, playing every conceivable (and also unconceivable) online or offline game, may have some different experience both on the stability of the OS and on the utility of "registry cleaning" tools. There is actually a (wrong ) assumption in the very beginning of this thread.Īnd what is saddening is that it is the SAME assumption that has been forced down our throats by the good MS guys, that a single Operating System can be a one size fits all and all it's user should or must conform to a given behavioural model. ![]() I've been a software engineer for 4 decades. For all the new workstations I've gotten I just restored a System Image backup from the old one and kept on working. I don't even reinstall Windows when I get a new system. Let's see, I installed XP 圆4 in 2005 and ran that very same install until 2006 when I put in Vista 圆4, then installed Win 7 圆4 in 2009, and now I'm on Windows 8.1 which went in last fall and is running as or more smoothly than the day it went in. ![]() You don't know me from Adam, but I have run Windows systems since there have been WIndows systems, and I only ever install them once. People may chime in and say "CCleaner is not like the others", and to that I'll respond in advance: A glass hammer is not like the others either. They cause FAR more problems than they solve. My advice: Learn how to delete the old files from your TEMP area, monitor what's set up to start and run via Task Manager or Autoruns from time to time, and never run a "cleaner" application. Why do you think you need a "cleaner" application? What problem are you trying to solve? Who has convinced you your computer's gotten "dirty"? ![]()
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